INTERVIEW WITH THE INSIDER "Putin Personally Directs, GRU and FSB Execute" - Who is Behind Sabotage Acts Committed in the EU?

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Putin controls a significant portion of both sabotage operations and assassination attempts within the European Union and personally decides who to kill, says Roman Dobrokhotov, editor-in-chief of The Insider, a leading outlet in investigative journalism specializing in uncovering Russian intelligence operations.

Interviewer: Former Estonian intelligence coordinator Eerik-Niiles Kross said in an interview with Deutche Welle that the methods of the Russian special services remain the same, but their audacity is new. Do you agree?

Roman Dobrokhotov: The methods are also new. Increasingly, they recruit insignificant individuals to carry out petty provocations via the Telegram social network. The targets don’t necessarily have to be military or political but can include civilian infrastructure—such as planting an explosive device in a DHL package, painting anti-Semitic graffiti on a wall, or setting a shopping mall on fire. Over the past few years, this has become widespread.

Interviewer: Who currently leads the Russian Federation's services overseeing foreign operations? Do they compete with each other in carrying out acts of sabotage on EU territory?

Roman Dobrokhotov: It is Putin himself who directs these operations, but the executors are both the GRU and the FSB. The main entity responsible for this is the Fifth Service (the Service for Operational Information and International Relations, led by Colonel General Sergei Beseda).

Interviewer: How are decisions made? What is the hierarchy? Former Putin ally Sergei Pugachev has said that Putin only orders killings when he feels personally slighted.

Roman Dobrokhotov: Putin personally controls a significant portion of both sabotage operations and assassination attempts. The overall strategy is to create panic and a sense of distrust toward authorities within the EU, as well as to overwhelm local intelligence services by diverting their attention to numerous smaller sabotage activities.

The Insider's editor-in-chief, Roman Dobrokhotov.
The Insider's editor-in-chief, Roman Dobrokhotov. Photo: Ivan Skrjabin / Rus.Postimees

Interviewer: Do Russia's intelligence services compete with each other in carrying out sabotage abroad?

Roman Dobrokhotov: I wouldn’t say that Russian intelligence agencies compete in the number of sabotage operations they conduct abroad, but both the GRU and FSB are involved in carrying out these activities.

Interviewer: Who decides whom to kill and whose windows to smash?

Roman Dobrokhotov: Putin decides who to kill. As for breaking windows, such decisions can be made at the level of specific generals if it aligns with the strategy agreed upon with Putin.

Interviewer: Regarding Zelimkhan Khangoshvili (a former rebel commander who fought against Russian forces during the Second Chechen War and was assassinated on August 23, 2019, in Berlin, Germany), was Putin personally aware of this hit?

Roman Dobrokhotov: Former combatants are eliminated based on lists, and there were dozens of them. The murder of Khangoshvili in the center of Berlin was a demonstrative act.

August 23, 2019. Forensic experts of the German police securing evidences at the site of a crime scene in a park of Berlin's Moabit district, where a former Chechen rebel commander, the 40-year-old Georgian national Zelimkhan Khangoshvili was killed by a Russian national in Berlin's Kleiner Tiergarten park.
August 23, 2019. Forensic experts of the German police securing evidences at the site of a crime scene in a park of Berlin's Moabit district, where a former Chechen rebel commander, the 40-year-old Georgian national Zelimkhan Khangoshvili was killed by a Russian national in Berlin's Kleiner Tiergarten park. Photo: CHRISTOPH SOEDER

Interviewer: Estonian intelligence services announced in early December court punishments for those who smashed the windows of the Minister of the Interior’s and journalists’ cars. The main organizer was Ilya Bocharov. He was not in Estonia. What do you know about this person? Is he an officer or a middleman?

Roman Dobrokhotov: We checked Bocharov and found no connection to the GRU. It is highly unlikely he was ever a commissioned officer. He is registered as the owner of many companies. Most likely, he is a middleman. However, orders for such individuals come from the intelligence services. We have never seen sabotage operations originate from anywhere else.

Interviewer: How do Russian intelligence services assist the families of agents who are caught? Are those arrested in Estonia expendable for Moscow?

Roman Dobrokhotov: For high-profile assassins who know Putin personally, like Krasikov, state support is always guaranteed. For smaller operatives, there is no protection.

Interviewer: Do Russian Federation diplomats in EU countries know about these activities?

Roman Dobrokhotov: Ordinary diplomats usually know nothing. However, around a third of diplomats are members of intelligence services and may themselves be involved in certain operations. Even within these ranks, the left hand doesn’t always know what the right hand is doing.

Interviewer: Which information about Russian intelligence operations in the EU is easier or harder to obtain?

Roman Dobrokhotov: GRU operatives are usually slightly easier to identify than those from the FSB, though the difference isn’t significant.

Interviewer: Has anything changed in GRU operations after sanctions were imposed on their most prominent military unit, according to your research?

Roman Dobrokhotov: There has been a shift toward more civilian, rather than military, provocations. This is where we started the discussion.

Interviewer: Which types of operations are more frequent: digital ones, such as data theft, or physical ones, like the Interior Minister’s driver’s car or the Czech ammunition depot explosion?

Roman Dobrokhotov: There’s no precise statistic, but both types of operations have become noticeably more frequent.

Interviewer: How can this ominous trend be countered?

Roman Dobrokhotov: In addition to the usual work of identifying and preventing such actions, we believe investigative journalists should play a more active role. In today’s world, much of the work related to these problems is analytical. That’s what we do. I am confident that Estonia has excellent journalists capable of this work. We don’t ask much from state agencies—just hints about the right direction to dig. In this sense, we have good contacts with specific EU countries, though not all.

Interviewer: Your colleagues at Dossier Center [a Russian voluntary anti-corruption project] reported after the gas pipeline rupture between Estonia and Finland a year ago that FSB special units might be behind it. Do you have any information about who could be responsible for such sabotage?

Roman Dobrokhotov: We consider these claims very likely and credible.

Interviewer: What determines the dynamics of underwater sabotage activities in the Baltic Sea? What can we expect in February, for instance, when the Baltic States disconnect from the shared energy system with Russia?

Finnish coast guard near Oil tanker Eagle S on the Gulf of Finland on December 28, 2024, after the tanker sabotaged Estlink 2 subsea eletric cable connecting Finland and Estonia.
Finnish coast guard near Oil tanker Eagle S on the Gulf of Finland on December 28, 2024, after the tanker sabotaged Estlink 2 subsea eletric cable connecting Finland and Estonia. Photo: Jussi Nukari

Roman Dobrokhotov: At least until peace talks in Ukraine begin, Russia will continue its sabotage activities as actively as possible. The only way to stop this is through countermeasures—mass ship seizures and public disclosures. Putin perceives impunity as encouragement to act.

Interviewer: Since 2021, there have been massive attacks involving migrants at the borders of Poland, Lithuania, and Latvia. Who is responsible for this in Moscow?

Roman Dobrokhotov: We know for certain that the FSB assisted in both bringing migrants to the region and directing them to the border. We also know that the GRU developed plans for provocations involving migrants. It is entirely plausible that they are cooperating in this effort.

Interviewer: Could similar migrant attacks occur in Estonia after Finland's experiences in 2023?

Roman Dobrokhotov: Of course, it’s possible. However, at the moment, most resources are being directed toward sending those same migrants to the front lines in Ukraine.

Interviewer: The head of German intelligence mentioned that Russia might incite Estonia’s Russian-speaking population, concentrated in the country’s eastern regions. Do you think this is possible, given the current personnel and methods of Putin’s intelligence services? Are they capable of orchestrating such efforts?

Roman Dobrokhotov: They might attempt to organize something, but this wouldn’t resemble the situation in Donbas. Russia will avoid bringing troops onto NATO territory. However, to provoke a political crisis, Russia could stir up the situation to create tensions.

Russian Electronic Warfare Affecting Baltic Air Space

RQ-4 Global Hawk.
RQ-4 Global Hawk. Photo: Bobbi Zapka / USA õhjõud / Wikimedia Commons

In January 2024, it was reported that Russia had intensified radio-electronic warfare in the Baltic States. This was confirmed by General Martin Herem, the then Chief of the Defence Forces. Statements from Estonian military officials appeared in the media just days after we reported the installation of military equipment on mobile communication towers in Russian territories bordering Estonia. Subsequently, it became known that Russian authorities were increasing the radiation power of these towers. Throughout 2024, both civilian and military aviation repeatedly experienced navigation issues, with the U.S. Air Force reconnaissance drone Global Hawk forced to land as a result of GPS-jamming in August.

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